Little did I know when I was in Paris at the UNESCO Futures Literacy Forum in December last year, that it was likely to be my last trip abroad for some time. As all of us contend with the onset of the pandemic, and as many parents and carers are trying to figure out how to juggle home schooling and their jobs, it feels almost nostalgic to see this video published of an interview I gave at the Paris event. In it I talk about how storylistening can enable creative imagining about the future, and how it is needed to inform decision making and create futures that exist, and that ‘we’ want to live in. What I said then resonates differently now, of course, as we contend with a pandemic and even at its outset start to think about what the world might look like, what it needs to look like, afterwards.